I need help please.

[0Zlancer]

Well, today i got the all knowing "service engine soon" light. I pretty much figured it was going to happen because of the stumbling my car has been doing. What happens is, if am trying to accelerate, and under hard pull, it would stumble hard, almost like it wanted to stall. My only thought about what it could be is a fuel delivery problem since i have ran it on fumes a few times in the last month. Would a clogged filter, pump, or injectors set off a service engine light? The first thing i might do is change out the fuel filter, and if that doesnt do it, i may look else where. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[piranha]

Many different things it could be. For instance, Mass air flow, hell, engine RPM. Coolant temp... Before you start chucking money at it, get an OBDII scanner. At least, that's what I'd do.

[0Zlancer]

Arent OBDII scanners expensive?

[otter]

Most auto parts stores have scanners and will hook them up to your car free of charge. Have them pull the code for you, then you'll know what to start looking at. Once you have the code, you can come back to us and we can try to help you out :)

[Z_lancerman]

If you are planning on modding the car though, an OBDII scanner really is worth the investment. As is another vehicle in case the Lancer goes down :) That's been my problem.

[0Zlancer]

yeah, i am planning on trying to get the turbo in within the next month while i still have a backup car. This will only work if everything goes as plans because i am suppose to be moving early/mid january to florida. I will get it scanned and see what it says and get back to you. Thanks.

[stevo_mr]

When you were stumbling you could have gotten a misfire which would blow a code.

[0Zlancer]

^True, didnt think of that. I will definetly swing by autozone or similar and see what the code is. I might just use this as an excuse to go out and buy everything i need for my turbo setup. Right now i am only around $400 from having everything, and i have enough saved up to get all of it.

I do have another question though, this might be a stupid question but i guess if thats what it takes to learn.

If i want to do my turbo setup broken down into parts over time, could i install the 255lph fuel pump along with the 12:1 FMU and be able to drive still (not for a long time, just a couple days to complete the rest)? Not completely sure on the specifics of fuel management yet.

[0Zlancer]

When you were stumbling you could have gotten a misfire which would blow a code.

Good call. According to the OBDII scanner i had a misfire on cylinder 2. I figure it has something to do with fuel because it only has trouble when i am using alot of torque, so i would imagine it isnt getting either enough fuel, or air. Since i have a CA i am guessing its fuel, not to mention the fact that i have ran it low on fuel too many times. The lady at autozone said that i could buy a new fuel pump for only 178.00. I was like, no thats ok. Let me know any thoughts, disagreements or ideas of where to start looking. I am about to pull the plug on cyl 2 just in case.

[SmikeEvo]

Not fuel -- spark plugs - they are cheap and easy to change. Its pretty hard sometimes to visually see that it is bad - sometimes the por. is cracked, other times its just over due. Check your wires too! Make sure none have been rubbed through, and make sure they are not touching any metal - that can cause poor spark.

Ill add about the why is prby not a fuel pump - when those die, so does your car. It usually is not hesitation but a wall in terms of driving.

If you change all the plugs, and wires are good. And you still have issues then look a the fuel pump.

But as you describe it, it sounds like you are losing spark.

[0Zlancer]

yeah, i didnt necessarily think it was the fuel pump, just clogged or dirty fuel filter. It doesnt see to be anything spark related because when i rev it while in neutral it is fine. There isnt the slightest hesitation or anything out of balance. It almost feels like the engine is starving when i have it in gear, and under the engine is under torque. I will check out the spark plugs and wires also just in case.

Thanks for the response, i will check everything just in case.

[EvoGLH]

You could have picked up some sludge from the bottom of your tank, but we've got a pretty large & robust filter - it'd take a LOT to clog it!

Fouled plugs will also give you the same symptoms & error codes.
(:confused: Am I the only one whose plugs 'just happen' to foul & require replacement only in the spring/fall, right after stations switch to/from winter-blend gas??)

I'd start by checking/replacing the plugs, and while the wires/coils are off, take close look at the condition of the #1 & #3 spark plug wires & the coil boots on cyls 2 & 4.
Also make sure the mount points for the coils are clean & free of grease, corrosion, etc.: they are ground points for the coils, and it's important that they be kept clean & make good electrical contact for proper operation.

I once had a similar driveability problem: only when BOTH the spark plugs and #1 & #3 spark plug wires were changed (and the coil mounts verified to be clean) was the problem completely -- and sooo simply -- eliminated.
(All my troubles turned out to be caused by degradation of the OEM spark plug wires: Mitsu warrantied 'em, and installed new plugs!)

Spark plugs & OEM wires aren't too expensive... BUT unfortunately, the ONLY way that I know of to get new coil boots is with a new set of coils.... $$ OUCH!
(^^ unless you can get lucky enough to find a set in good condition at a local yard, such as American & Import in Sterling Heights.)

[0Zlancer]

well, for my sake i really hope its not too expensive. I am going to take out the plugs and look at them soon. It just seems kinda ironic that when i noticed it was when i just got done filling up off of an empty tank. I have ran it to empty about 4-5 times this month. The thing that i dont get is wouldnt a spark plug fouling/wire being messed up be noticeable at idle, at at high revs? Tomorrow i will go buy some Bosch plugs, and see where i go from there.

[EvoGLH]

It just seems kinda ironic that when i noticed it was when i just got done filling up off of an empty tank.That's when my incident raised it's ugly head: returning from a long road trip, no stations open in the wee hours... for a while, I thought I'd either clogged the filter, or gotten a bad tank of gas & done some real damage!


The thing that I don't get is wouldn't a spark plug fouling/wire being messed up be noticeable at idle, at at high revs?Nope!!
Initially, mine was ONLY apparent at WOT and high load conditions: perfectly smooth idle & absolutely no problems under easy driving/low load conditions... as long as I stayed out of boost!!

On my Evo, I have a handy 'lil temp sensor that monitors my upper radiator hose: I noticed that whenever I had my 'driveability problem', that sensor would see a very short temp spike - but the block temp & knock sensors weren't registering anything!
ie: I had misfire/detonation in ONE cylinder, but the ECU didn't (usually) know!!

Multiple trips to :mitsu Dealers, reputable mechanics, etc., and everyone was still left scratching their heads... multiple stealerships even repeatedly claimed to have inspected the coils & wires, and found 'em to be "...in good condition and within spec."

Then, "just for the Hell of it", Faisal & I swapped his coils & wires onto my Evo, (I'd checked & done damn near everything else, and next step was gonna be a engine teardown/rebuild :( ):

OMG! -- Problem solved!!

[0Zlancer]

Thanks alot for the reply EVO GLH. Right now i am planning on 1st buying new spark plugs, 2ndly i just put in some injector cleaner (doubt it really does anything). I am planning on going turbo, and i definetly dont want a mis-fire while trying to deal with all of the issues that will arise from that. I will keep a look out for some used coils for cheap or anything, and in the meantime i am going to keep collecting turbo parts. One of the things on my list is a 255lph fuel pump and a 12:1 fmu. I might try installing these, since i will need to anyway, and see if this clears it up. If it doesnt, i am pretty certain it would have to be a coil.

Just curious, i have seen WOT a million times and i am not sure of what it is abreviating, what is it. I'm not a huge forum person.

[SmikeEvo]

Thanks alot for the reply EVO GLH. Right now i am planning on 1st buying new spark plugs, 2ndly i just put in some injector cleaner (doubt it really does anything). I am planning on going turbo, and i definetly dont want a mis-fire while trying to deal with all of the issues that will arise from that. I will keep a look out for some used coils for cheap or anything, and in the meantime i am going to keep collecting turbo parts. One of the things on my list is a 255lph fuel pump and a 12:1 fmu. I might try installing these, since i will need to anyway, and see if this clears it up. If it doesnt, i am pretty certain it would have to be a coil.

Just curious, i have seen WOT a million times and i am not sure of what it is abreviating, what is it. I'm not a huge forum person.

WOT - Wide Open Throttle

And like what Bob said, at idle your car will be fine. Its under load when the bad spark surfaces.

If you take your car to a good shop, there is a professional inj. cleaner they can run through your car via vac. into the intake -- its a fogger, it will clean off anything in the intake track, inj. and cyc. I have my local shop do it every 25k for my Evo - cost is about 60-70 bucks.

Some one can correct or agree with my here - but putting in a 255 in an Evo or NA car will cause the car to run uber rich.

[0Zlancer]

Yeah, i think that the fogger you are talking about is called seafoam. I think that the 255 walbro or TRE would make it run rich, but i need one anyway for my turbo install. I am puting the 16G6 evo turbo in with evo intercooler, custom exhaust mani, 12:1 Blox fmu, and i am hoping i can have someone help me with the tune. I am putting in a air/fuel guage so that i can tell how rich i am running. I am really thinking you guys are probably right about the coil because it seems to do it mostly udner 2k rpms, then is mostly fine above that. I am going to take out the plugs and replace them today. I will probably buy some seafoam also and see if that helps any.

ok, i kinda ran into a issue yesterday also. I need to remove my exhaust manifold in order to take an outline of the flange to have my company machine a new one, and i always like to put a new one on, but its a pain in the ass to find parts for my car. Would it be ok to pull of the mani, trace it, then put it back on with the same gasket, or are the gaskets pretty weak?

Thanks for the help everyone.

[SmikeEvo]

Its not SeaFoam, I cannot remember the exact name of it. We cannot get it at any parts store.

For A/F gauge - you must get a wideband gauge (Im sure you know this) a Autometer A/F is a narrow band - it will only tell you 2 things. 1, uber rich (but not how rich) or 2, light show.

How many miles on your car? If its low mileage, you should be ok with the gasket, but they are cheap to replace.

[0Zlancer]

i have 60k on it. I cant get the gasket from a parts store, id have to order it, and the cheapes i have found so far is $20 from rrm which isnt bad. Yeah, i heard our gauges are wideband. What is the diff btwn the two?

[SmikeEvo]

i have 60k on it. I cant get the gasket from a parts store, id have to order it, and the cheapes i have found so far is $20 from rrm which isnt bad. How can you tell if a guage is wideband or not if it doesnt say?

60k - sounds like a good time for sparks, wires, and whatnot.

Try the dealer - they might have one right there for the same price.

Difference - price. WB - more $.

But they will have a O2 sensor with them and the gauge will be either numbers or a calibrated sweep or both.

Which one are you looking at? Personally, I would not get one until you are about to mount the turbo.

[0Zlancer]

http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=187
or
http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=279

I heard this company is pretty decent, and the price is great. I read the instructions for it and it taps into the stock 02 sensor on the way to the ECU.

[SmikeEvo]

Thats narrow band.

[0Zlancer]

hmm, ok i will keep looking then. Thanks.

[SmikeEvo]

NGK AFX Wide Band - $240ish

AEM UEGO - $270ish

Innovate WBs - $350+


For what its worth - I have a narrow band Autometer SC2 that Id just give to you (it does nothing more than tell me Im running rich and gives me a light show). I needed something to fill a spot in my column pod. Ill be taking it out this summer to put either a Trans temp gauge or EGT gauge in.

[EvoGLH]

60k = Don't forget to take a look at the :mitsu Scheduled Maintenance Table (if you don't have a copy of the PDF Service Manuals, look in the back section of your Owner's Manual.)

I'll save ya some time...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00000200-00-39.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00000200-00-40.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00000200-00-41.jpg

[0Zlancer]

NGK AFX Wide Band - $240ish

AEM UEGO - $270ish

Innovate WBs - $350+


For what its worth - I have a narrow band Autometer SC2 that Id just give to you (it does nothing more than tell me Im running rich and gives me a light show). I needed something to fill a spot in my column pod. Ill be taking it out this summer to put either a Trans temp gauge or EGT gauge in.

That would be great if you would do that for me, that would be greatly appreciated since im footing this all while a full time student making my own bills.

Also, does anyone have a used evo 8 downpipe i could get for a decent price? I need one to modify, thanks.

I just sold some of my college text books back so i will buy some bosch platinum 4 plugs and put them in later tonight and let you all know what happens.

Wow, thanks Bob, for finding that for me. It looks like 60,000 miles is when everything needs to be looked at lol.

I may try removing my front crash bar today also for the intercooler, does anyone know if that is illegal, or just unsafe?

[SmikeEvo]

No prb for the gauge.

And removing the front crash bar is totally -- not good. Insurance will stomp you in an accident when they find that out, and two, its not safe - thats there for your protection.

[0Zlancer]

Ok, i may just try and either fab a new one, or modify the original just in case.

[0Zlancer]

Woooo, Bosch platinum + 4 baby. With 4 of them, the proper torque, and some spark plug grease, and its running smoother than before. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys. Those damn spark plugs were almost $30 but well worth it. Now, its time to start modding for the turbo.

Does anyone know off the top of their head how many lbs to torque the header on at?

This just got hella frustrating, cuz its dark and cold out, and i cant get that damn bolt off on the far left side of the header because there is close to no clearance. Any pointers? It looks like it might be a saturday job because it looks like i need to loosen up the power steering pump.

[EvoGLH]

Woooo, Bosch platinum + 4 baby. With 4 of them, the proper torque, and some spark plug grease, and its running smoother than before. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys. Those damn spark plugs were almost $30 but well worth it. Now, its time to start modding for the turbo.

Does anyone know off the top of their head how many lbs to torque the header on at?

This just got hella frustrating, cuz its dark and cold out, and i cant get that damn bolt off on the far left side of the header because there is close to no clearance. Any pointers? It looks like it might be a saturday job because it looks like i need to loosen up the power steering pump.That's what we're here for !!

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00004300-15-11.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00004300-15-12.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00004300-15-13.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00004300-15-14.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00004300-15-16.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/miEVO/misc/GR00004300-15-17.jpg

Dunno about that stubborn bolt, but maybe try some PB-Blaster.

Joe, Zack, Rob -- any ideas?

[0Zlancer]

Thanks, that will help me out alot. On the 2.0L engine, the bolt on the far side that is in the same spot the "N11" is pointing to, is covered up by the power steering pump bracket, so i guess i am going to have to remove it.

[EvoGLH]

That makes sense: step 4, note <<A>>


Hey guys -- anyone in the Kzoo area got a copy of the Lancer PDF manual??

[otter]

Hey Bob, are those scans or is your PDF manual better than mine?

[EvoGLH]

Hey Bob, are those scans or is your PDF manual better than mine?Right off the disc you gave me.

I'd say it's a secret, but you wouldn't believe how simple it is to do.

They'd be even larger/higher res, but Photobucket lowered the resolution, and my 19" LCD monitor is limited to 1280x1024... :( sometimes I miss my old comp & it's monitor: ran it at 1920x1280 resolution, and it was capable of much higher!

[0Zlancer]

Wow, what a horrible design. Taking off the exhaust mani was a pain in the ass. All the really had to do to make it easier whas to cut a little dimple out of the side of the power steering bracket, and it wouldnt even comprimise any of the strength of the bracket. I have the exhaust manifold off, and i have taken off the crash bar to test fit the IC. I also ordered my gauge pod today and my boost gauge. I am going to CAD up the exhaust flange and have my shop CNC plasma cut a stainless flange for the low low price of...free.

Someone should send me a copy of the manual :).

Thanks alot for those PDF's they helped out alot.

[otter]

Right off the disc you gave me.

I'd say it's a secret, but you wouldn't believe how simple it is to do.

They'd be even larger/higher res, but Photobucket lowered the resolution, and my 19" LCD monitor is limited to 1280x1024... :( sometimes I miss my old comp & it's monitor: ran it at 1920x1280 resolution, and it was capable of much higher!

Reason I asked is that I noticed you had the pages in order. Usually, that's not easy to do on that CD without going into the directories and manually finding each page. No matter, though, I found a guy who has a dealership copy of the service manual, and I'm seeing if I can get that. Actually has the proper title pages and such!

[EvoGLH]

...I found a guy who has a dealership copy of the service manual, and I'm seeing if I can get that. Actually has the proper title pages and such!Go for it!!

Very worthwhile investment!!

[0Zlancer]

Woo, i got my exhaust mani today thanks to Jarrod, and i bought a 2nd 4g94 in case i mess up mine :) (also great for test fitting, and taping the oil pan). Also i drew an exhaust Flange in CAD and will have it cut in the CNC plasma cutter tommorrow ( it couldnt be finished today because the dang shop people are lazy and always leave early lol :) j/p). And Stripper is looking for some parts for me, so far they seem like they wanna be quite helpful.

[0Zlancer]

wow, is it just me, or are the regular lancers pretty minor on this site?

[piranha]

I have a calibrated elbow :)

[otter]

wow, is it just me, or are the regular lancers pretty minor on this site?

There's not a whole lot of us :( As far as regular visitors, there's 2 Ralliarts and 3-4 ES/OZ Lancers.

The two Ralliarts are decently modded, Joe's more than mine at this point. I do have a brake project that's a work in progress right now. There's one turbo OZ here (Zack). Two others in Michigan that I know of, a white one in K-zoo and Wiretap from EvoM, but neither of them post here that I've seen.

[0Zlancer]

Ok, as for tuning, once its turbo'd, i should get it tuned immediately right? Well, i dont have the money for that as it turns out, so i was wondering if anyone in this area could give it a quick tune, or how that works? Do they just plug in, and change some of the maps, or what happens?

[otter]

What they'll do is plug into your ECU and give you a map. How easy that is, though, depends on if your setup is identical to someone else's around here. Zack's setup is running higher boost (9?) and larger injectors. If you match his setup, his map would work for you, then you would have to make an arrangement with him to get said map, if he's willing to share. If you end up needing a custom tune, which I think you will since you're building yourself a one-off kit, you'll still need a wideband before someone can tune you.

[0Zlancer]

Hmm, so i will be looking for someone with walbro 255 fuel pump, 12:1 fmu, and around 5-7 psi of boost. Can someone send me a map over the net, if someone is nice enough to share it, and also what all entails someone giving me a map, do they just plug into mine? I have little knowledge of tuning, so it would be great if someone could please explain it.

[downshift]

i DON'T know how much this will help but...
i just got done reading this thread off evom http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=219752&pp=15 started by z_lancer_man (zack) *its long* but there were things in there i'm considering doing later down the road to my lancer... with buying a cable($90) and downloading software($15 & free) to use for tuning yourself.. but you Do need to do some research... but should help save money down the road.


*its been a while since i've logged in the site and i guess i missed this whole thread.. not that anything i know would have help out more then you guys but as far as base models, i'm in kalamazoo.. i don't think i've seen (wiretap) lancer. what color is his..

[otter]

Hmm, so i will be looking for someone with walbro 255 fuel pump, 12:1 fmu, and around 5-7 psi of boost. Can someone send me a map over the net, if someone is nice enough to share it, and also what all entails someone giving me a map, do they just plug into mine? I have little knowledge of tuning, so it would be great if someone could please explain it.

With 12:1 FMU, a walbro 255, and only 5 psi, you can run on the stock ecu on the 4G94. That's the way RRM sells their stage 1 kit. Again, Zack will have more info on that. He ran around for quite awhile, untuned, until he started doing flashes and upgraded to WRX injectors.

[0Zlancer]

ok, thanks alot i am glad i dont have to have it tuned right away. I am hoping that it will run fairly smooth, we will see. So far, everything is going kinda slow, my shop is machining the exhaust manifold, i put my gauges in today, my walbro is in the mail, and i am still waiting for the FMU, and wastegate actuator.

[0Zlancer]

Does anyone know where to get cheap, yet good turbo lines for the coolant and oil. I thought there was a website called cheapturbolines.com but it isnt pulling up anything. Thanks.

[0Zlancer]

Wel, i bought my slim fan today, installed my gauges yesterday, and my Walbro is on the way.. My shop is trying to fab the flange, but our plasma cutter is ancient, so we will see how it comes out, i drew the CAD on it perfectly, so we will see how good they do their job. Also i am still trying to get an adjustable wastegate actuator for a good price, but thats probably not going to happen, looks like im going to have to buy it new.

[0Zlancer]

i have a question again, does anyone know which wires are what on our stock o2 sensor?

[SmikeEvo]

Is it a four wire right? Two should be for heat, and 1 is a sensor, 1 ground

http://www.gendan.co.uk/images/stock/o24wire.gif

[0Zlancer]

Thanks, i'll need to check and see how many wires it is, its either 3 or 4. In the mean time im adding some pictures of the new flange that was made by my work for me out of 3/8" stainless.

and btw, the flange is ground down more than in the pictures, so its all smooth now.

[Z_lancerman]

Man, finals and the holidays really left me out of the loop. Looks like you are making some good progress on the turbo kit. I'd be more than happy to continue and help in any way that I can.

[0Zlancer]

Yeah i know finals were a drag on me also, especially btw that and work and trying to get my car around, and packing for florida. Thanks, I prolly will need a little more help cause this is a pretty big project, lol.

[0Zlancer]

Ok, so that simple fuel pump installed i managed to make harder, the wires for the plug inside the tank going to the fuel pump fell out. There is a blue wire and a black wire and i am not sure on their location on the two prong plug. If anyone knows, lemme know immediately. I think the blue wire would be a positive and the black be a ground, and the plug outside of the tank thats two prong is a red wire and a black wire. Pretty sure the red wire would be hot, and the black be ground, but i would like to be more than pretty sure since it is in the fuel tank. Thanks

[Z_lancerman]

Woah - fell out? Dang, let me see if I can dig up some pictures since I can't remember off the top of my head.

[0Zlancer]

Thanks for looking that up Zac. Will someone please do me a favor and post a pic of the stock evo8 intake tubing so it may help some issues i have with it fitting. As of yesterday i have the exhaust manifold done, the turbo is mounted, intercooler mounted, Walbro (Kinda) installed, and slim fan installed. I will post pics when i can, but i have a deadline of Friday to be done and running as close to flawless as i can get. Thanks. Also, does anyone have an extra gasket for between the turbo and exhaust manifold (The metal one) used or new that i could get?

-Kevin

[Z_lancerman]

Thanks for looking that up Zac. Will someone please do me a favor and post a pic of the stock evo8 intake tubing so it may help some issues i have with it fitting. As of yesterday i have the exhaust manifold done, the turbo is mounted, intercooler mounted, Walbro (Kinda) installed, and slim fan installed. I will post pics when i can, but i have a deadline of Friday to be done and running as close to flawless as i can get. Thanks. Also, does anyone have an extra gasket for between the turbo and exhaust manifold (The metal one) used or new that i could get?

-Kevin

No problem - still looking. Have you tried the dealership on that gasket?

[SmikeEvo]

The turbo housing to mani gasket is MR404547 its like $12 or so (the 02 housing is MR299686 - $15 or so) Call Paul @ Showcase - mention mievo, he can get it for you.

[0Zlancer]

Thanks, i will give them a call.

[0Zlancer]

So i have a few pics for you guys to show some progress, here is where i am so far. I am ordering a gasket from the dealership today, and connecting my turbo lines today to the coolant, and oil. After the lines are connected someday this week i should be getting my FMU which i hear is fairly easy to put in. After that all i have is exhaust and MBC and im done (I hope before Friday, my scheduled day to move to Florida is on Sat, but i need to test and make sure im running good).

As far as the lines coming off of the Wastegate Actuator and the stock bov, where do they go to?

[0Zlancer]

Is it a four wire right? Two should be for heat, and 1 is a sensor, 1 ground

http://www.gendan.co.uk/images/stock/o24wire.gif

Ok, so my 02 sensor plug is a 4 wire, it has two black, one white, and one blue. Which of these is the signal wire does anyone know? I have one more question before hopefully firing her up, right now i have my wastegate actuator vaccum going to the manual boost controller, then to a line running to the vaccum off the throttle body. Is this correct?

[SmikeEvo]

Humm...I think this is the info:
http://www.boschautoparts.com/NR/rdonlyres/D90D5AD3-7E41-439E-B271-20A76139E0F7/0/OxygenSensorInstall.pdf

Go to page 2. Blue is signal, white is ground, black are heaters.


MBC how to:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=114794

Diagrams from that how-to:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=52117

http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=52118

[0Zlancer]

Looks like i have it set up right, thanks for the reply. As soon as i get this thing running, i will post some more pics and possible a video for you guys. So far so good, but being custom i have been running into all sorts of issues with fitment, to bolt size/strength, and exhaust.

[SmikeEvo]

:beer

[0Zlancer]

I started it up today, and it was running good (purring like a kitten but louder than hell coming out of the downpipe), i think i may have too much of a drain on the vacc line because my wastegate actuator wasnt working. I am excited though because there were no leaks of any fluid to my knowledge, and everything else installed was working well.

There arent any other 16g turbo lancers around in Mich are there?

[SmikeEvo]

Great to hear!

[Z_lancerman]

I started it up today, and it was running good (purring like a kitten but louder than hell coming out of the downpipe), i think i may have too much of a drain on the vacc line because my wastegate actuator wasnt working. I am excited though because there were no leaks of any fluid to my knowledge, and everything else installed was working well.

There arent any other 16g turbo lancers around in Mich are there?

Great to hear it's running! You are the first in Michigan that I know of to be running the stock EVO 16g. Nice job :thumbup